How To Make A Living Doing What You Love Passion vs Depression {with Cathy Heller} - Episode #30


Today’s guest Cathy Heller is the host of the #1 recommended podcast by iTunes for 2018 and 2019, called Don’t Keep Your Day Job. It has been featured in HuffPost, the NY Times and Inc Magazine’s “top 9 podcasts”.

Her podcast has been downloaded over 4 million times and has featured some pretty epic guests like Jenna Fischer (I mean who doesn’t love Pam from the office), Seth Godin, Jonathan Adler, Bobbi Brown, novelist Emily Griffin, Danielle LaPorte and Gretchen Rubin to name a few. But she also has a pretty epic story of her own.

She started out as a singer songwriter and first found success licensing her music to TV, Film and Ads. Quickly she became a stand out in her field and was featured in magazines like Billboard, Variety and the LA Weekly. After making a multi six figure living with her music, Cathy started a music agency and she then began teaching other artists to grow their own careers. And just two weeks after her third daughter was born, she started this podcast!

What we’re talking about

  • Depression and childhood identities we create for ourselves

  • Failures we both made when starting our business

  • Purpose being the opposite of depression

Working-mom “guilt”

“I think there is so much shame that moms have around feeling guilty when we like working more than playing legos, and we think what’s wrong with me? There is nothing wrong with you!”

If you look back thousands of years you could see that moms are busy. The whole idea of it taking a village is true. It wasn’t all about this one mother who had to engage her child and keep them entertained all day.

When you step away and do something that makes you happy and feeds your soul it ultimately serves your husband and your kids, more than coming home and feeling depleted.

Growing up with depression

Cathy grew up in a household where her mom was depressed, unfulfilled and felt like she gave it all up and didn’t have a self or a career. She watched her mom really struggle because she was feeling so depleted. Cathy realized the opposite of depression is not happiness, it’s purpose.

Failures on the path to success

“Is it Beyonce or bust?”

After landing two record deals and being dropped by both, Cathy thought about getting a regular job and looked at what at it may be like to work a desk job at a design firm. This didn’t work out and she moved on to a non-profit as well as selling real estate. Neither of these options were viable for her and she looked at way to get back in to music as this was her passion. She realized that she had to create the opportunities she wanted and this was the start of her music licensing journey and was well on the way to fulfilling her purpose and sharing her message.

The opposite of depression is purpose

“I think that the world is merciful and it will lead you to where you can serve the most.”

In order to be successful, all you need is an inkling of what it looks like where you’re headed to and a place to be put right foot, your next step. It’s always going to be fuzzy, the how is never given to you on a printed paper. You have to push through in order to find what’s brilliant.

Thank you so much for joining and listening today, I’m over the moon grateful to have you as part of this community.